Brookside Snow ball was one of the first dahlias we grew and I see that it is still being grown for cut flowers. It used to grow tall and healthy and have lots of flowers with problematical stems. Ken's Choice is also my choice for red balls as it grows tall and healthy and the flowers are bigger than Cornel. Irish Pinwheel is a specimen flower as to get really nice ones takes some work. Chimacum Davi is good grower and terrible tuber keeper. I am not familiar with Isabel and it looks to be a good cut flower.
honnat Sep 18, 2019 1:22 PM PDT
St. Paul, MN
teddahlia wrote: I am not familiar with Isabel and it looks to be a good cut flower.
I'm told it is a sport of Cornel or more likely a sport of Ivanetti (which is a sport of Cornel). I am growing lots of it along with Ivanetti as they are an easy pair for market bunches. I do the same thing with Cornel and Cornel Bronze. Of the 4 Cornel versions, Cornel Bronze is the best grower for me. I am growing 75 plants and it is fantastic for fall markets.
While I also love Ken's Choice, Cornel is an outstanding cut flower. Easier to grow than Ken's Choice with longer stems even though the plants are shorter. Easier to disbud etc. That said, Ken's Choice is bigger and bolder and the color is a bit less dull. I grow lots of both but feel I should eventually pick one as I really grow (proportionately) too much red.
SteveM Sep 18, 2019 2:09 PM PDT
Name: Steve San Diego Commercial cut flower grower
honnat wrote:Nice harvest yesterday for our wholesale florist market
Great display! Which of the two peaches (Clearview Peachy or Jowey Winnie) do florists prefer? Which one of the two do you consider the best for cutflower use?
This year I have several Clearview Peachies and my Jowey Winnies turned out not be Jowey Winnie. I've been harvesting a lot of Clv Peachy but they seem to fade out and turn grayish between picking and getting to market. I need some new Jowey WInnie stock but not something with tuber gall....no more Dutch imports for me. I'm hoping to find someone with healthy stock they have been growing for several years to buy from. Does anyone have a suggestion abut the peaches that turn muddy? I wonder if I could add something to the water...our water is sightly acid...
teddahlia Sep 18, 2019 5:45 PM PDT
Name: Ted Oregon We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Speaking of sports, you should look for a sport of Isabel that is white. It would be the next sport in that continuum. Example: Spartacus, Vassio Meggos, Louis Meggos
Deep lavender flowers sport to white.
sylviap Sep 18, 2019 5:55 PM PDT
Name: Sylvia West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
teddahlia wrote:Speaking of HH Dragonfire, Christy Parks won best variegated in show with it in Eugene. That is at least the 6th time it has won best variegated in the shows. Some of my stock went solid red and I hate it as a red. May not have enough of it to sell.
Yes, I saw that today! I was looking at the current blooms as the weather has been so nice and cool, this flush of flowers has a more vibrant color. And then there was the red one there... looking quite out of place!
honnat Sep 18, 2019 8:11 PM PDT
St. Paul, MN
teddahlia wrote:Speaking of sports, you should look for a sport of Isabel that is white. It would be the next sport in that continuum. Example: Spartacus, Vassio Meggos, Louis Meggos
Deep lavender flowers sport to white.
Ted, if I got a solid white sport of Isabel, I would leap for joy, scream, shout and the neighborhood would wonder if I had finally lost my mind. There is something about these Cornel plants that just make them so easy to deal with. From the tubers to the plants to the flowers. Pure white is much needed. I do have nice tall stock of Brookside Snowball this year but the stems are not nearly as nice as the "Cornel Family."
I'm holding out hope that Salish Snow...(forgot the full name) is making tubers as that could be another alternative. Not very tall or productive but it may have been crowded by vigorous neighbors.
honnat Sep 18, 2019 8:31 PM PDT
St. Paul, MN
SteveM wrote:
Great display! Which of the two peaches (Clearview Peachy or Jowey Winnie) do florists prefer? Which one of the two do you consider the best for cutflower use?
The wholesale market manager prefers we bunch dahlias into 5s so florists buy more stems. But when I arrive, she'll let me know which don't need bunching cause "they are already sold" (via pre order).
ALWAYS, pure white stays un-bunched. Always all of my CV Peachy (I'm growing 20 this year) and always Jowey Winnie stay unbunched.
Almost always all my burgundy stays unbunched (HH Black Beauty/Widow, Skipley Smiles and Rip City). I don't grow Cafe but that is probably sold individually too. The rest are bunched (pinks, reds, purples, yellows, oranges, etc.
So that's the long way of saying - florists love them both.
The bigger question is which do I prefer. I'd say CV Peachy is easier to grow for cutting. Taller plants, longer stems and WAY more tubers. JW might be slightly more productive and I prefer the. color. JW also is a more lush, green bush (for me). Choosing ome? - CV Peachy.
It is "Salish Snow Day."..like when it snows over night and school is cancelled...its a "Snow Day"
It is prolific bloomer for me. And close to 4' tall.I will try to measure them tomorrow and chart this) I hope next year yours is taller and more prolific. Or maybe it is your climate...lets track how it does next year and see if this is consistent. I haven't received any other feedback on it.
It is definitely not a "normal"
year in my garden since i had so much trouble getting things planted. I think nearly all are in bloom now though.
I planted some seedlings of Salish Snow Day this year but they all look pretty much like Snow Day,
teddahlia Sep 20, 2019 1:17 PM PDT
Name: Ted Oregon We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Embrace sported to pink and was shown in California last year and has now immigrated to Portland. I am not much of fan of the original Embrace and the pink one does not have the same tight form as the original.
Margaret putting together designs for Roseburg show.
. MY favorite purple seedling 2019. I am calling it "Hiro's Welcome" for our little Grandson, Hiro who appeared about the same time. Let's hope it doesn't succumb to the "curse of the purples". Its a largish BB and seems consistent. Has a faint darker picotee edge. Grows about 6' tall and lots of flowers. I hope it is making lots of tubers!
Salish Sweet Rosalie. Nice miniature or bb seedlings, proliffic flowers that go well in bouquets. This is one of last years seedlings. The story behind the name....My daughter's middle name is Rosalie. She loves baking and dreams of one day opening a cupcake shop named "Sweet Rosalie's.
This daughter is the mother of Hiro. She will be too busy for a sweet shop for a while!
DillyDahlia Sep 22, 2019 9:15 AM PDT
Name: Tina NY Zone 5b/6a Flower Power!
Rosendale Peach
JS Dorothy Rose (stunning color in the garden, she glows!)
melissamaeday Sep 22, 2019 10:40 AM PDT
Name: Melissa Omaha,NE
Great looking blooms, Tina! I think Rossendale Peach just went on my wish list.
Nutley Sunrise
Clearview Lily (and Hollyhill Black Beauty to the left)
Maarn - always a favorite here
Normandy Wild Willie
Camano Mordor - crazy productive, glad I tried again after having bad luck with it last year
Hollyhill Clowning Around - this one is now over 6 ft tall here. Silly me put it in the front of a bed as I read it was 4 ft. Lesson learned about doing that with any Hollyhills in the future!
sylviap Sep 23, 2019 11:12 AM PDT
Name: Sylvia West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
The weather here for the last 2 weeks has been very nice: most days the highs are in the mid 80s. Some days have been cloudy and we've even had 2 days of rain. So, the dahlias are looking really nice.
Eva Luna finally bloomed. It is big, healthy plant with a lot of buds. This whole section of the garden is late this year so I'm not sure of its blooming habits. It doesn't look like it is still fully opened.
CV Peachy - last year the color wasn't consistent, but this year in a cooler part of the garden it looks better.
AC Ben - it's been much more productive in the past. Again probably because of where it was planted is the reason for the lack of flowers.
HH Dragon Fire - this flush of blooms are much prettier - more vivid coloring than the first set
Still waiting on 4 or 5 plants: AC Twist, Ayer's White Knight, HH Big Pink and Big Red. They are all in a group in this late part of the garden. Looks like Raspberry Punch might be open in a day or two.
And, yup, the distinguishing eye will see the return of powdery mildew. Looks like it will need one last spray before the season is over.
teddahlia Sep 25, 2019 8:20 AM PDT
Name: Ted Oregon We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Nice healthy pom growing at Clack's Dahlias. Almost 4 feet tall. Lilac Willo is the name on the tag.
sylviap Sep 25, 2019 11:48 AM PDT
Name: Sylvia West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
Raspberry Punch
melissamaeday Sep 25, 2019 7:11 PM PDT
Name: Melissa Omaha,NE
Wooho, Sylvia! My Raspberry Punch finally bloomed, too. I really wonder why it was SO late for both of us.
sylviap Sep 25, 2019 8:46 PM PDT
Name: Sylvia West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
I love it! Hoping for more blooms but it is getting late in the season.
teddahlia Sep 26, 2019 8:06 AM PDT
Name: Ted Oregon We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
This was a strange year for some varieties blooming late. Show N Tell while not normally an early boomer, bloomed late. I found several others blooming late and in previous years bloomed a week or two earlier. I am attributing the lateness to my irregular fertilizer application. and next year I am going to put down more fertilizer in the first doses. I normally like to fertilize with smaller doses and do it more often. As I get older, it is easier said than done and I will use more time release in that first fertilization.
sylviap Sep 26, 2019 10:18 AM PDT
Name: Sylvia West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
i attribute the lateness to the weather we had in the spring. It rained so much in March and April that I was a good 4 - 6 weeks behind time in planting. So it makes me think that perhaps Raspberry Punch could/should have bloomed a month ago. Mid August would have been OK.
I am surprised at how many buds are on Eva Luna. Right now it has 2 blooms fully opened, but yesterday I counted 16 buds on it. If they all open close together it will be beautiful.
Eva Luna fully open. I'm still not sure why I bought this one. I think it was one of those orders where I was paying for shipping but could add more tubers for the same price.
Jessica - found her today hiding out! Not too many buds on this one.
. MY favorite purple seedling 2019. I am calling it "Hiro's Welcome" for our little Grandson, Hiro who appeared about the same time. Let's hope it doesn't succumb to the "curse of the purples". Its a largish BB and seems consistent. Has a faint darker picotee edge. Grows about 6' tall and lots of flowers. I hope it is making lots of tubers!
Salish Sweet Rosalie. Nice miniature or bb seedlings, proliffic flowers that go well in bouquets. This is one of last years seedlings. The story behind the name....My daughter's middle name is Rosalie. She loves baking and dreams of one day opening a cupcake shop named "Sweet Rosalie's.
